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CobraC081375 · Jun 03, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Up to lvl 10 for all of these builds i would like to know what stats and skills i would need as well as make suggestions on what armors, accessories, and weapons, etc. i should strive to get/save.

Necro/Elem-plan on dealing death damage while being able to heal a party and using AoE attacks for solo if possible

Ranger/Necro-being able to attack from afar without bein in close range and as because in most games Rangers have low hp so would like to be able to absorb hp from monsters.

Monk/?- make any suggestions...wanna be able to hand-2-hand kick some ass every now and then and deal high damage while doing it.

Elem/?-make any suggestions...don't want to heal in this one except myself..i play a healer on another game and healing all the time sucks...wanna be able to multi attack/AoE

Basically for all these characters i want to be PvP and PvM(monster) and also be able to participate in some wars when i have time to.

suiraCLAW · Jun 03, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

First of all: you shouldn't even think about solo'ing anything in guild wars (except if you want to gank in gvg's, but I bet that you have no idea what that is

)

nec/ele : try a MM build...

ranger/nec : rangers attack from far, don't even think about stealing health while staying away from mobs and keeping your energy pool alive.

monk/? : monks heal, I repeat: MONKS HEAL, nothing else (except gimmick builds)

Ele: If you want to nuke, go pyromancer.

@the mods here: pls move this topic to a better place.

CobraC081375 · Jun 03, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

hahaha i soloed to 8 because i didnt know you could party on certain quest...i didnt know you could use party members from a quest til lvl 8 at old ascalon city

whats MM build?
whats a nuke and if so how do i build a pyromancer?

im playin a friends account at the moment and build a N/E character with all bonelace armor and a nice few items to boot.

theres so much to this game i dont even understand....i thought kalonline had alot to understand but this oen takes the cake...sounds very interesting

CobraC081375 · Jun 03, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

what about a Necro/Mesmer?

CobraC081375 · Jun 03, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

duh Monk/Mesmer?

CobraC081375 · Jun 03, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

which would be primary and which would be secondary? monk/mesmer or mesmer/monk?

If so what skills and how would i distribute points among the character?

Infinite Minds · Jun 03, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

monk/mesmer FTW, try out a boon prot build, get you builds here

http://http://www.guildwarsguru.com/...ad.php?t=88308

Infinite Minds · Jun 03, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

k well my URL didn twrk, so just go to the monk subtitle on the campfire section, go to build directory submissions, there should b all you need for monking in there

oneiros · Jun 04, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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Originally Posted by CobraC081375

Up to lvl 10 for all of these builds i would like to know what stats and skills i would need as well as make suggestions on what armors, accessories, and weapons, etc. i should strive to get/save.

Necro/Elem-plan on dealing death damage while being able to heal a party and using AoE attacks for solo if possible

Ranger/Necro-being able to attack from afar without bein in close range and as because in most games Rangers have low hp so would like to be able to absorb hp from monsters.

Monk/?- make any suggestions...wanna be able to hand-2-hand kick some ass every now and then and deal high damage while doing it.

Elem/?-make any suggestions...don't want to heal in this one except myself..i play a healer on another game and healing all the time sucks...wanna be able to multi attack/AoE

Basically for all these characters i want to be PvP and PvM(monster) and also be able to participate in some wars when i have time to.

Hi there. First off if you ever wanted to solo you should make your monk a monk/warrior. there is a famous build called the "55 hp" build that makes use of monk/warrior and it is really good for soloing. Note that as you go through the game groups will expect you to heal on your monk because there just isn't enough monks around. You can change your "build" whenever you want though so don't worry too much.

As for the rangers having "low hp" in guild wars all classes have the same HP. The only thing that seperates their survivability is their armor and their skills. Of course warriors have the best armor for taking damage.

As for secondarys it is always useful to take /mo as a secondary if you're unsure since you can just use it for a reusuable ressurect and nothing else if you want. Once you get to the end game you can take a quest to change your secondary whenever you want so you aren't locked into the first secondary you choose.

Also I'm not sure if you're aware since you said you soloed till level 8 but every town has henchmen that you can take with you when you go out. they are just computer controlled guys that come along with you. hold down your alt key in town and look the guys with [xxxx henchman] after their name.

As for weapons the easiest way to get a "perfect" weapon is to get one off of the various "collectors" spread around the wilderness. You could also just buy a max dmg weapon off a player. Note that collectors don't sell "max" weapons until the level 20+ areas.

If you want good builds for your classes check out the profession forums for whatever class you're looking for. There will be lots of people suggesting various builds there.

Don Zardeone · Jun 04, 2006, 04:54 AM // 04:54

I wouldn't go 55monk as a newb to GW.

Try playing every profession in the way they are "supposed" to be used.

Warrior: kill stuff and protect team
Monk: heal stuff
Ranger: kill stuff from range or make doggies kill stuff
Necro: make undead stuff to kill stuff for you
Ele: kill stuff by letting it rain fire or whatever = destructionmage

Once you get the hang of everything try these:
Necro: your necro is a N/E. I hardly ever see any of those. You might notice a lot of MMs. Minion Masters and Spiteful Spirit necros are the most popular necros right now. MMs create their own small army of undead and SSnecros make stupid people die.

Monk: full healer, use 5energy healing spells. Go Mo/Me for nice energy management.
Once you get better look up on protting, bonding, etc.
Attributes to raise: healing and divine favor

Ranger, eh, most popular seems to be barrageranger. They attack several targets at once. Besides attacking from range, rangers can also spread degen with apply poison and interrupt enemies quite nicely (interrupting will stop the enemy from doing whatever he is about to do. If an enemy monk is casting a spell, you can stop it from being cast)

Ele. You said you wanted your necro to be able to heal party.. Monks heal, all the other profession DONT. Unless you're a utility emo. E/Mo can be a utility elementalist that uses utility spells like wards and heal party.
People will tell you to go nuker at first but nukers LOOk good and powerful but in reality they're quite crap. Only if you're really really good at it will you make a difference.

LightningHell · Jun 04, 2006, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Don Zardeone

E/Mo can be a utility elementalist that uses utility spells like wards and heal party.
People will tell you to go nuker at first but nukers LOOk good and powerful but in reality they're quite crap. Only if you're really really good at it will you make a difference.

In fact, it's the primary use of the profession.

I'll give you a build.

Flashbot (Geez, I'm typing this build up a LOT nowadays.)

E/Mo (My version. It's basically standard, but...well...a skill or two?)
Energy Storage: 11 +1
Air Magic: 10 +3 +1
Healing Prayers: 10

Heal Party
Blinding Flash
Ether Prodigy {E}
Enervating Charge
Lightning Orb (In PvE, I would sub for Lightning Strike. P'raps.)
Windborne Speed (GvG/TA)/Gale (Nearly all others)
Heal Other (Mainly since I usually play with suboptimal healers - my * friends * who have a reaction time of five seconds -_-)
Resurrection Signet

By the way where are you?

(If you can do Warding, do so. But don't PuG as a Warder; it sucks trying to keep everyone (casters) in the ward.)

CobraC081375 · Jun 06, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

so far ive played a Necro/Elementalist...me likes...also i played a monk/everything cus you can do the quest and everything for each profession before actually choosing a profession....i dont like the monk that much really...die too easily trying to attack and heal a party(NPC party that is)...so i think ill stick with my necro/ele...seems to have the combination of skills i like better...warriors: well kinda reminds me of the Marines(no offense) always the first to be called and always the first to die....hehehehehe...I also like the Mesmer/Monk but again too many diff types of casting....I havent tried a Necro/Mes yet...when i get my own copy of the game i may try it out. Right now i play on a friends acct just to kinda get a hang of the game a bit. The only thing i dont like about this game is you have no storage keeper to maintain items only gold and that your inventory is very small and limited to how much you can carry so if youre trying to collect items before heading to old ascalon city makes it a little difficult

CobraC081375 · Jun 06, 2006, 01:41 PM // 13:41

If imma necro/ele what would be my best skills to take on for the following:
energy management
dealing high damage
self health and healing
dealing damage
removing hexes
giving hexes/curses
energy/health consumption of the opponent(if possible)
farming

also i need to know where to put my stat points into

also i notice when youre creating a character theres something like PVP or PVE and Quest or something other...whats that about?

jesh · Jun 07, 2006, 04:13 AM // 04:13

I noticed you said this.

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Monk/?- make any suggestions...wanna be able to hand-2-hand kick some ass every now and then and deal high damage while doing it.

And everyone told you to be a boon protector with Mantra of Recall. Geez... There's a thing called smiting, people. And I bet he'd love it.

As for this..

Quote:

If imma necro/ele what would be my best skills to take on for the following:
energy management
dealing high damage
self health and healing
dealing damage
removing hexes
giving hexes/curses
energy/health consumption of the opponent(if possible)
farming

also i need to know where to put my stat points into

also i notice when youre creating a character theres something like PVP or PVE and Quest or something other...whats that about?

1. Try Offering of Blood for energy, or just pump up that soul reaping. Soul reaping is incredibly abusable at high levels in PvE.
2. High damage.. really you can choose any of the necromancer attributes. Curses have Feast of Corruption, Spiteful Spirit (SS), Mark of Pain, and of course Insidious Parasite and degeneration.
Death has minions and cold damge, and the awesome skills known as Death Nova. *shivers with pleasure*
Blood has.. well health steals, and lots that are scary.
3. Any necro line of magic has crazy self heals. Check out the skill listing if you want to learn more. Necros are so easy to heal.. I cry when I see one die in a PuG. I cry for all humanity.

::link to skills::

4. See number 2.
5. Out of luck there, buddy. Necromancers are specialists at dealing with conditions, and elementalists are specialists at pretending that hexes aren't there. You won't be able to remove those with that class combination. Mesmer and Monk have the only hex removal tools as far as I know.
6. Try the curses magic and water/earth magic lines.
7. That would be the mesmer's specialty, though you do have whither and malaise. They aren't too effective except against stupid people.

8. Ask someone to link you to a 55 necro build. There are enough posts polluting the boards on this as it is.

elektra_lucia · Jun 07, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by suiraCLAW

First of all: you shouldn't even think about solo'ing anything in guild wars (except if you want to gank in gvg's, but I bet that you have no idea what that is

)

nec/ele : try a MM build...

ranger/nec : rangers attack from far, don't even think about stealing health while staying away from mobs and keeping your energy pool alive.

monk/? : monks heal, I repeat: MONKS HEAL, nothing else (except gimmick builds)

Ele: If you want to nuke, go pyromancer.

@the mods here: pls move this topic to a better place.

"ranger/nec : rangers attack from far, don't even think about stealing health while staying away from mobs and keeping your energy pool alive."

Uhm? Touch rangers ftw =P.

"monk/? : monks heal, I repeat: MONKS HEAL, nothing else (except gimmick builds)
"

Dualsmite? Not heard of it in PVP? Smiting works in PVE too. I repeat, SMITING works in PVE too!

"Necro: make undead stuff to kill stuff for you"

B-Spike? Where's the undead stuff in that? Mass degen, where's the undead stuff in that? I tried B-Spike in TopK once =X.

" Up to lvl 10 for all of these builds i would like to know what stats and skills i would need as well as make suggestions on what armors, accessories, and weapons, etc. i should strive to get/save."

The best suggestion I can give you is ignore people, and try work out things yourself... A lot of people give advice which isn't worth listening too..

CobraC081375 · Jun 08, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

"ranger/nec : rangers attack from far, don't even think about stealing health while staying away from mobs and keeping your energy pool alive."

Uhm? Touch rangers ftw =P.

"monk/? : monks heal, I repeat: MONKS HEAL, nothing else (except gimmick builds)
"

Dualsmite? Not heard of it in PVP? Smiting works in PVE too. I repeat, SMITING works in PVE too!

"Necro: make undead stuff to kill stuff for you"

B-Spike? Where's the undead stuff in that? Mass degen, where's the undead stuff in that? I tried B-Spike in TopK once =X.

" Up to lvl 10 for all of these builds i would like to know what stats and skills i would need as well as make suggestions on what armors, accessories, and weapons, etc. i should strive to get/save."

The best suggestion I can give you is ignore people, and try work out things yourself... A lot of people give advice which isn't worth listening too..

you didn't get much attention as a child, did you? Anyway, since im just a noob i appreciate you comments.

elektra_lucia · Jun 08, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

I belong to a family of millionaires, by the age of 16 I had made hundreds of thousands of pounds (double for dollars, I guess). I had helped family a lot and everything I did, I was good at.

I was also really good looking as a child(note the word _WAS_ lol).

So yeah, I got attention, for good looks and intelligence + love off my family, but I ask you this :

How did you come to the conclusion, and assumption that I had suffered a lack of attention at an early age, from a post stating that you should use your own brain to think?

For your information, my advice was to help you use your brain to help you help yourself, not to help you attack me; however, thanks for proving my advice was worth while. You clearly do not use your brain, and if you do, you might find things a whole lot easier...

That's of course, if you have one...

"Anyway, since im just a noob i appreciate you comments."

I doubt you have the intelligence to appreciate anything to be honest.

P.S. I don't even know why you say "much attention". I am an attention w h o r e, yes, but by helping you I wasn't after attention. I was just trying to be kind thank you for shoving it right back in my face.

CobraC081375 · Jun 09, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

well obviously youre a conceited, silver spoon fed, ugly butt(not what i wanted to say, but will work) from england/london/uk cannot take a joke and forgot to spend some of that money on a humor class. Secondly, I support a network of 5000 stores U.S. and 2000 canada. I'm a tech who troubleshoots networks, pc's and POS systems all day in a dept. of 20 or less, so don't try to tell me i don't use my brain. Thirdly, when learning something new just like a child, or even an adult, you have to teach them or point them in the right direction. I'm sure if it were'nt for your mum showing you how to make crumpets and tea...you wouldn't know how. So in short and light of your stupidity, cut a noob who is looking for some guidance in a game he does not understand some slack and keep your rich boy comments to yourself if you're not gonna be helpful and can't take a joke.

Male Gigolo · Jun 09, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

I dont see why you're mad at him...he was giving you an advice and you were the one asking for advice.

anyway before this thread get's closed for flaming let me just add. You can do whatever you want with your character. Just don't split your attribute points too much. Usually you max 1 out and other 2 around 10. That's when you are done getting both of the attribute points quests. Its all up to you.

Anway its hard to give you advice coz you're asking for sooo many different characters. And also coz you want to do things that normal newbs dont try out coz it's for more advanced players.

Anyway good luck!

Pick Me · Jun 09, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by CobraC081375

Up to lvl 10 for all of these builds i would like to know what stats and skills i would need as well as make suggestions on what armors, accessories, and weapons, etc. i should strive to get/save.

Necro/Elem-plan on dealing death damage while being able to heal a party and using AoE attacks for solo if possible

Ranger/Necro-being able to attack from afar without bein in close range and as because in most games Rangers have low hp so would like to be able to absorb hp from monsters.

Monk/?- make any suggestions...wanna be able to hand-2-hand kick some ass every now and then and deal high damage while doing it.

Elem/?-make any suggestions...don't want to heal in this one except myself..i play a healer on another game and healing all the time sucks...wanna be able to multi attack/AoE

Basically for all these characters i want to be PvP and PvM(monster) and also be able to participate in some wars when i have time to.

Hmmm... I'll try to help you if I can.

N/E - sadly Death is not an attribute that can do really good damage. The best damage is either corpse explosions (putrid explosion) or through health degeneration (from disease). If this is your hope, then get Tainted Flesh (e) or Virulence (e). (e) = elite.

N/E - is okay, but if you go with Death, become a Minion Master (MM), this means you use only Death spells that help or create minions (thus no room for any elemental skills. Make sure you have Animate Bone Fiend, Animate Bone Horror/Minion, Verata's Sacrifice, Blood of the Master, Poison Nova, Animate Flesh Golem (e) but can only be found in Factions)

Necromancers - if you want to party heal, well of blood or well of power (e) are the only spells you have that can actually do that. AoE spells, the best is Spiteful Spirit (e) (doesn't trigger AoE manerisms). Then would come Meteor Shower (does trigger AoE algorithm)

R/N - all classes have the same amount of hitpoints, but the armor and energy is different; Rangers provide a portable corpse (pet) so you can do MM with it; currently a popular build for PvP is the Touch Ranger - must have Factions as well

Mo/x - the only way you can hope to kick butt is to do a 55 monk. See the threads for it.

E/x - slow using water (0 points) and nuke (fire or earth). Slow them down and watch them get crushed under meteors or big stones.

My characters are:
N/Me - SS+blood (and battery), Pure interupt, MM, Total Health Degen. Can also be a plague bearer and spread your conditions to the masses.

W/R - Poison Warrior, Runner, Part time Barrager

R/Mo - Pet Master, Trapper, Barrager

Mo/E - Healer, Boon Protector, Bonder, Nuker when with henchies

Rit/N - MM, Restorer, SS+blood

A/Rit - no builds yet, just started.

Hope this helps a bit.